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Our 13 year old Shepherd Akita started sneezing in Sept 2013 which progressed to reverse sneezing and then a plugged nose by Oct. We went through the process of possible allergies, foreign object in the nose, rhinoscopy on Oct 31. Sadly our precious girl was diagnosed with nasal cancer with poor prognosis. She too was put on prednisone which resulted in loss of bladder control at night time. This stressed her severely as she never had accidents in our house! We were told we had 3 to 6 months. Sadly the cancer was very aggressive and rapid in progression. Her health took a rapid decline and she let us know as heart breaking as it was for us that we had to let her go. We are fortunate to have a wonderful Vet with a mobile practice for our horses who came to our home. On Nov 16, 2013 we tearfully sat and hugged Sheba as she peacefully left us and went over the rainbow bridge. This is a terrible disease and even now my heart hurts. My advise is love your pet unconditionally but there is no cure and the end result is the same. Do what is necessary for ease of pain but when the quality of life is gone, as much as it hurts us, do not put them through extreme measures! Just love them, hug them, comfort them and let them go.
Lisa, International
Posted: 4/16/2014 5:03:33 PM
Thank you for this article. I lost my 11-year-old Beagle to nasal adenocarcinoma on Dec. 5, 2013. The diagnosis was unexpected and devastating. After reading this article, I am positive we did the right thing when we decided to forgo treatment and let our boy live out his final days as comfortable as possible. I would be interested in knowing if lawn treatments might have played a part in him developing nasal cancer. This is a horrible cancer with a heartbreaking prognosis, but we were fortunate to have sound and honest medical advice that helped us with our decision. In this case, involvement of the bone and soft palate as well as migration into the brain made treatment, even palliative, too stressful and counterproductive.
Pat, Lincoln, NE
Posted: 4/16/2014 4:56:02 PM

For informational purposes, this site has a lot of great insight and data.
Minnie, Upstate, NY
Posted: 11/17/2013 11:52:33 AM
My best friend Baxter just passed away Nov.02, 2013 from a nasal carcinoma. This article follows his treatments to a tee. The steroids masked the true issue. Finally when he was really havinv trouble breathing an internal specialist at Veterinary Speccialists of Northern Colorado found Bax's lymphnodes on the right side were swollen. She looked at a sample under the microscope and said he had a carcinoma. We did a CT scan and the carcinoma went from his right nasal passage to behind his right eye and the bone was gone. He was not a candidate for radiation. He was great friend who tried to be the great dog he had been even if walks were just across the street then back. The vets did what they thought best. I miss him very much. He had one bloody nose snd that was were it started. Thanks
Dominic, Loveland, CO
Posted: 11/5/2013 6:13:35 PM
My dog Bart who is 7 1/2 yrs old was diagnosed with nasal cancer 2 weeks ago. There isn't a hospital that deals with this type of cancer in pets in my state. I would have to bring him to either Boston, or NY, both are costly, and don't get me wrong I love Bart, he really is my best frend, I would do anything for him, but the cost of travel, and cost of radiation, I just can't afford. I have spent 3k aready to find out that this is what he has, they put him on predisolone, and I am to start next week with this drug every other day instead of every day. I was wondering if there is anything else i can do to prolong what I know is coming? I did notice that on the predisolone his breathing is better, but he's doing things he's never done before. Ex. Getting into the garbage, peeing in the house, but his personality hasn't changed. What I'm asking is, is there anything I can do to ease his pain if he's in any, are there vitamins out there that will help him.

I appreciate anything you can do to advise me with my best friend.

Thank you
Gloria, Winsted, CT
Posted: 9/5/2013 7:07:55 PM
My shorthaired pointer-lab mix is 16 yrs. We had a diagnosis 4-2011 it is now 8-2013. We have 5nasal flushes at in blacksburg,va. Dr Sangster . Some time periods in between as long as 7months.some as short as 4months.a great guality of life. Some flushes have produced large chunks of tumor.some none.but all flushes have cleared breathing so she can run and play.they say she is a legend.
margaret, roanoke, VA
Posted: 8/14/2013 12:51:55 PM
Very helpful article. My 5 year old Maine Coone female, Sage, was diagnosed in early 2013 with nasal lymphoma. She underwent chemotherapy which had little effect as her tumor grew over the course of treatment. It mainly affects her right side - her face is deformed and her right eye is covered (with the tumor). She doesn't seem to be in pain and is still eating & behaving normally. I don't want her to suffer and am struggling with the timing on when to put her to sleep. I don't want it to move into her brain or to have her struggle to breathe. It is such a sad thing, my heart has been breaking since her diagnosis.
Mary, St. Louis, MO
Posted: 7/8/2013 6:24:11 AM
My 20 year old cat, Madison, was diagnosed (not definitely) with nasal cancer in Nov. 2012, although she had exhibited signs of some sort of nasal blockage for several years (lots of sneezing). Last summer I noticed a nose bleed for the first time. When she was diagnosed, we decide on palliative care because of her age, with daily antibiotics and pain meds as needed. Since November, she has had good days and some bad days. Her face is badly deformed and she has had difficulty breathing. However, up until last week, she had been eating and sleeping, using the litter box and jumping into the windowsill to watch birds outside. However, she now exhibits difficulty sleeping and prefers not to move at all. I think we are going to let her go this weekend. Awful disease, Madison is otherwise healthy and very spry for a 20 year old kitty, except for the tumor. Thanks for the comments section so much; it has helped me to know what to expect with this disease.
Cynthia, Denver, CO
Posted: 5/17/2013 7:37:17 PM
Our 10 yr old lab has had unilateral nose bleed on and off for two weeks. In hindsight, he did have some clear nasal discharge for a few weeks before this. We went to a specialist, a CT scan would have cost $2,000 and if it was + for cancer the treatments wouldnt have been an option for hm anyway. He hasn't aged well, he has had seizures for the last two years controlled by meds now. I am not saying that I wouldn't pay for what my pet needs: as a responsible fur child parent, I would pay almost any amount to keep him with us longer-as long as he isn't in pain/suffering. But in his case, the CT and poss treatment would be too much for his old body to take. and too traumatic for him.
We do not have a definitive diagnosis of cancer, but are pretty sure as his symptoms progress.
Jody, Galesburg, MI
Posted: 5/1/2013 11:01:05 AM
My 17 yr. old cat, Midnight,(estimated age because he was a TNR'd stray when he found my house) was diagnosed with a nasal carcinoma in June, 2012. My regular vet said she thought Midnight's sneezing and snotty nose was probably nasal cancer but suggested I take him to the Ear, Nose and Throat specialist. The specialist found that the right nasal cavity was completely blocked and he removed the tumor. He said the tumor would grow back and gave Midnight 3-9 months to live. This past April 12 was the 10-month mark. I started researching this subject again because I think the tumor may be growing into his throat because he gags/coughs some when he eats. He occasionally sneezes blood. I have started elevating his food and that has helped some. Midnight was diagnosed with diabetes 2 weeks ago and if the tumor is growing and hindering his eating, I feel this is the beginning of the end. We all go through the agony of trying to do what's best for our 4-legged babies and not allow them to suffer and at the same time, try to keep them with us as much as we can until "that time" gets here.
Brenda, Boyds, MD
Posted: 4/28/2013 7:13:19 AM
Interesting article. We are currently going through nasal cancer with our Sheltie. Symptoms that prompted us to go to the vet included reverse sneezing and lout breathing especially at night. We have gone through the radiation treatment last June for 18 days of treatment. Side effects were manageable and included loss of small amount of hair around the eye on the side of the cancer which grew back a different color, mucositis which resolved within weeks, dry eyes which require ongoing eye drops and the development of a cataract and some scarring in that eye. Symptoms of the cancer disappeared and she truly enjoyed the last nine months. It is April of the following year and the cancer has returned (as it does with nasal cancer). We are in palliative radiation with the hope of slowing the growth rate of the tumor and gain some more months. It has been an educational experience and we have truly enjoyed the extra time we had with her.
Susan, Charlotte, NC
Posted: 4/2/2013 6:40:52 PM
Thank you for this article. My 15-year-old female DSH tortie cat was recently diagnosed with an adenocarcinoma, located in her nose. She has had lifelong nasal/sinus inflammation, regularly sneezing and depositing snot all over our apartment (I didn't mind!). According to the vet, the chronic inflammation probably contributed to the development of the tumor. I am taking my cat to the radiation oncologist later this week to consider treatment options. At this time I don't want my cat to go through radiation treatment, and I'd rather give her palliative care for however much time she has left with me. However, I'm willing to be open-minded at the consultation.
Margaret, Chicago, IL
Posted: 3/11/2013 1:54:39 PM
We lost our sweet girl Belle to nasal chondrosarcoma on 1/15/13. She was first diagnosed back in the summer of 2011 and we opted for radiation treatments. The treatments were expensive, about $7,000 in total, but she was our baby and we wanted more time with her. We knew that the survival rate was anywhere from 6-24 months and we were fortunate she lived for a year and half after treatment. I knew in early December 2012 that the cancer had returned. We took her to the vet, had another CT scan which showed that the tumor had grown significantly; was really close to bursting through to her brain. It also had grown so large that it was pushing her right eye out of the socket as well as causing facial deformity. The kicker was that is had also grown into her mouth. Upon further inspection, a large mass had grown on the roof of the inside of her mouth, which explained why her breath always smelled of rot. She started sneezing out blood, having a very difficult time breathing, especially at night. There really wasn't much more that could be done for her. If we opted for radiation treatments again, we wouldn't be able to be as aggressive as the first time and it wouldn't shrink the tumor, just keep it from growing bigger. The vet recommended we remove her right eye and said with treatment she could be expected to live only 4-6 more months. We decided not to do radiation and within 2 weeks, she had deteriorated so much that she could no longer breathe normally. When the time came, we had her put to sleep. We struggle every day with the decision we made and wish the outcome would have been different.
Y. Payton, San Antonio, TX
Posted: 1/27/2013 4:55:09 PM
Very Informative, I just recently lost my Siberian husky named badger to this. He was almost 10. About 6 months ago, he woke up having a sneezing fit, and hit his snout on the floor causing him to sneeze blood all over. We took him to the vet, found out he had somehow got heart worms, so was treated for that. About twice to 4 times a week after that till recently he would have sneezing fits sometimes bloody sometimes not. He developed a knot toward the tip of his snout about the size of a small golf ball. It slowly was working it's way to his eye, making mucus start oozing out his eye, He would snore loudly, his teeth started to decay, and dropped from 65 to 40lbs over the course of the 6 months. It's hard to put your best friend down, but it's more peaceful then having a stroke or heart attack, plus he seemed to be suffering. All he would do all day is sleep and maybe use the bathroom once. He would always ask 5-10 times a day to go out when he was normal. He would not eat dog food, eventually would not eat much meat either. Would never turn down cheese thou. He had an amazing life and will be missed.
Doug, Medaryville, IN
Posted: 1/18/2013 9:29:41 PM
Helpful article, my choc lab aged 8 was diagnosed with nasal cancer in oct 2012. We decided to go with the radiotherapy at Cambridge queens school of vetinerary. Treatment has finished, side effects so far are minimal, just hair loss. She is happy enough and if you are insured I would recommend the treatment for sure. Don't know how long she will survive but it has given her a better quality of life for now.
Sue, Berkhamsted, AL
Posted: 12/30/2012 12:36:32 PM
Dear Dr. Villalobos,
Thank you for your article. In October we had to put our 8+ year old Golden Retriever to sleep for nasal cancer. They talked to us about radiation and chemotherapy, but since he already had SAS (sub-aortic stenosis) and had lived YEARS longer than we suspected he would, we elected to go with palliative care. His diagnosis was on 09/17/12 and he died of massive bleeding on 10/20/12. We had him PTS as he had three major bleeds in two days, and his vitals were in the crapper. Radiation was not an option as his SAS was a problem concerning anesthesia.

I only wish the internist we talked with told us that massive bleeding was one of the symptoms. We thought we would have 6-8 months with perhaps swelling nasal passage and all that. I only wish the internist we consulted would have told us that epitaxis, for a dog with SAS, was more serious than for a dog without this heart condition. In any case, your article gave me some closure on our dear Riley. We gave him a regime of piroxicam (which you suggested), he was comfortable – and he is now at the Bridge. Again, thank you for your wonderful article about nasal cancer in dogs and cats.
Pat, Belton, TX
Posted: 11/13/2012 9:32:35 PM
Thank you. The article was very helpful. My English Setter passed from this last year, following exactly the course that was determined in the article. We opted for no treatment, due to the severe side effects and the poor possible benefits.

Last month our other dog, a full brother to the Setter that passed, began having nosebleeds, and difficulty breathing. Both dogs were/are old (over 10), but it surprised me when Pepper began the exact same symptoms as his brother. Is this rare cancer genetic? Is this somehow environmental?

I am disinclined to even have a diagnostic rhinoscopy this time, since we would not opt for the radiation or chemo. Concentrating on keeping Pepper as comfortable as I can for as long as he has, which looks to be about 6 months, will be our goal.

Again, thank you for the very informative article. It helped. Are there any meds I could give him to help his breathing as the tumor grows and continues to block his nasal passage?
Jennifer, Rocklin, CA
Posted: 8/3/2012 3:04:40 PM
Very interesting and informative article. My cat has rhinitis and just in the last 3 months has a tumor/node growing towards the top of his left nostril. It is pushing against / growing over his left eye and now he is pretty much down to one eye. This article helped me better understand what's going on. It's consistent with what our vet said but gives more info.

I'm curious about use of beta glucan therapy with cats that have Allergic rhinitis. I've read studies that it's very positive treating humans. Can you comment / send me a message? Thank you!
Lynn, Sacramento, CA
Posted: 8/2/2012 10:24:50 PM
thank you for this article-this is exactly what my cockapoo has,yet he was never properly diagnosed because after his first nosebleed 10months ago the vet wanted to do a cat scan and we couldnt afford it. we took him to a new vet yesterday who tried to obtain a nasal swab to see if its cancer and the affected nostril is now completely closed. his eye is still totally functional but i think the tumor is about to break thru near the tear duct and there is the big spongy mass between his eyes. The affected eye is asymmetrical and has alot of yellow goop. My question is what will happen next? his heart is strong,will the tumor break thru or will he have a seizure? he sleeps alot but otherwise seems fine and we dont want to put him down prematurely,and with this very poor prognosis any treatment seems almost cruel.
jackie, strongsville, OH
Posted: 7/28/2012 7:17:52 PM
My 7 year old dog Oliver was diagnosed with nasal cancer in February 2012. Even though the only symptom he had was a little discharge from one nostril, an MRI revealed that a tumor was already apparent in his brain. The vet gave him 2-3 months with no treatment and 4-5 months with radiation. We opted for no radiation. Since he as diagnosed, he has been on doxycycline and perioxicam. I have also had him on high doses of fish oil, vitamin E, pro-biotics, and a no-grain/high protein diet. It has now been 5 months, and while the tumor has spread to the other nostril, he is doing very well. He sounds very congested, particularly at night, but it doesn't seem to bother him all that much. He is still very engaged with us, runs on the beach, and fetches as well as he ever did, (which isn't very well). Our plan is to take it day by day, and keep him for as long as he seems to be enjoying life. Some advice for others whose pets are diagnosed with this terrible disease. First, put your pet on probiotics. Oliver got terrible diarrhea from the doxycycline, which finally ended after he had been on probiotics for a couple of weeks. Second, get your dog off food with grain/carbohydrates in it and on fish oil. There is good evidence that cancer feeds on sugar/carbohydrates and that fish oil is a powerful anti-inflammatory. Finally, take your vet's prognosis with grain of salt. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence on the Web posted by people whose pets have way outlived their vet's predictions. I was waiting for Oliver to die every day for those first few months. I wish the vet had said something like, "it could be as little as a few months or as much as a year or more," because from all the reading I have done, it seems to be more like the truth.
Paula, Brooklyn, NY
Posted: 7/7/2012 10:46:34 AM
My 12 year old dog Romeo was diagnosed a year ago with cancerous nasal tumor totally obstructing right nostril and penetrating the left nostril. We were very financially strapped at the time. We were advised he would live only a month or so without treatment but treatment would have to take place 14 hours from home and he is a big dog who doesn't ride very well. We felt the travel and treatment would do more harm than good and chose to let him live out his life with his brothers and sister. He lays around some days and runs around playing and barking with other dogs other days. He had a few really bad days 3 months ago and we considered euthanasia. After a pain shot at the vet he perked up and has been with us over 3 months since and over a year since diagnosis. We feel the piroxicam he was on for a while halted the tumor somewhat. Unfortunately we halted it when we considered the euthanasia thinking he would only live a few more days. The side of his nose with the tumor begin to swell a lot leading me to believe the piroxicam was working. Taking it one day at a time. As I am writing this he is outside running with brothers and sister.
Janet, Athens, GA
Posted: 6/7/2012 7:33:56 PM
My 12 year old female standard schnauzer had a cyst removed from her foot in mid-August 2011. After that she started panting "differently" but I never talked to the vet if it was related to surgery somehow. On September 10 she came in after her last out and sneezed blood on the bedroom wall. The blood continued the following day and a trip to the Emergency Vet. Nothing was done except high costs for tests. The following day we visited our vet and were treated with antihistimines and antibiotics in case it was an abcessed tooth.

Symptoms were controlled and thought it was allergies. Stopped antihistimines in early October but reoccurance of blood at the end of October and again after only stopping antihistimines 1 day. Knew then not allergies. Checked with the vet who referred me to university vet. But I called the emergency vet and was shocked when she started talking payment plans. Learned every word they used for diagnosis cost between $300-$1200, and I was not prepared for that.

Without treatment of any kind my vet determined my dog probably did have nasal tumors at the end of December. Her nose started hardening in a small spot the first week of January. Could tell she was in pain and was given Deramaxx that gave her zip for a couple days. She had chronic colitis and that affected her health. Bloody discharge began again, but stopped mid-February. That was when her nose deteriorated significantly and she started having seizures. Some moments good, sometimes dropped or flipped off the couch. Her voice remained changed since September. Excitement prompted seizures sporadically. February 28 was not a good day as she was in pain the entire day and her nose had disintegrated so that you could not see a nostril opening. March 1 was real blood sneezed and unable to clear nose or throat. Euthenasia on March 2, 2012. 8 weeks was all it took. Thanks to others for sharing their experiences!
Louise, Des Moines, IA
Posted: 3/13/2012 4:30:56 PM
I could not leave the site--I read all the comments all the way to 2009. I have a 9 year old cat who was recently diagnosed with cancer. Like others, we believed his initial diagnosis of a feline herpes virus and was given anti biotics and anti virals. Then a second vet said it was allergies. Our other cat did not get the virus and that was what mystified us. In seeking a third opinion, we were told that our endoscopic surgery to take the tumor out. His symptoms as what you described, sneezing, discharge from his eyes, discharge from nose, difficulty breathing. The vet said he has a rare cancer that only 2% felines get and within that has a rare tumor that the vet said he has seen as they were clumped.

He is breathing now, sneezing, and recovering from the surgery. The only thing we can do is spoil him and love him until his symptoms come back. We will not have chemo or radiation because we were told what the side effects would be. Instead, we want him to enjoy being loved, spoiled even until he is ready to go.

My whole family is devastated. I have not stopped researching about this. I actually am still on denial that he was misdiagnosed. I sing to him, I tell him I love him and that I love him very much. I have cried every single time I think that I will have to put him to sleep. However, I am thankful for all the 9 years he spent with us and he will always stay in our hearts. In return he sneezes loudly for me:)
Becca, Bethesda, MD
Posted: 1/10/2012 8:17:39 PM
I found this article very informative and helpful. Our 14 y.o. cat was recently diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma via a biopsy and we just had to put him down 2 days ago as he was having difficulty breathing. His symtoms were spot on as described in this article. Difficulty breathing, eye and nose discharge only on one side. 2 months ago he went in for an exam and was diagnosed with stage 1 renal disease. The vet highly recommended having his teeth cleaned, we do not believe in teeth cleaning for our pet but she told us that the plaque and tarter may be contributing to his renal disease - so we agreed. While he was under she also extracted 2 teeth on his right side. He never recovered from this procedure. He immediately had breathing problems and eye and nose discharge and right side nasal blockage. They put him on antibiotics for 4 weeks and it did not help at all. We finally took him off all meds to see if he would heal himself as they diagnosed him as having feline herpes rhinitis. 2 months later after the teeth procedures I came home and he had breathing problems. You can see that his face was swollen on the right side of his face where she extracted the 2 teeth. We took him back to the vet and they found a tumor in his upper gums - it was pretty large. They biosied it and it was positive for cancer. I know we do not know the cause of these types of cancers, but I truley believe that the teeth extraction was related in some way. We were devistated that he progressed so fast after his diagnosis and that we had to euthanize him. We miss him very much.
April A, San Carlos, CA
Posted: 12/4/2011 9:49:24 PM
Our 9 year-old Beagle, finnigan, was diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma on the top of his nose. I am almost to the point of being numb! As a result of this insidious disease, he has lost apporimaxtely 2" of his bone and above his eyes. Honestly he is the sweetest little dog we have ever had. We made the decision to have 18 rounds of radiation. If not for the black spot and tatoos on his face, you never know he was fighting for his very life. Today, he is haveing a cat scan done, and his oncologist wants to discuss the results with us. I am dying in my heart, that we will be told he has only weeks left. December has always been a horrible month for me, and this only makes it worse. I hope and pray that advancement will be made in the treatment of all cancers and all deadly diseases. Though I do not know anyone who reads this, my heart and prayers go out to each and everyone of you and your beloved furry families.
Gail Hood
Gail, Calgary, AB
Posted: 12/2/2011 12:44:12 PM
Good info. I have a yellow lab named Lucy. She is only 6 and she has been diagnosed with Chondrosarcoma. Her symptoms started out with alot of sneezing and a lump between her eyes, and one day she had a terrible nosebleed.I took her to Iowa State Vet school where they diagnosed her. The strange thing is I did a 12x12 deck addition and she kept getting under the deck which she never use to do, maybe nothing but real strange. I chose no chemo and surgery was out of the question. She's hanging in there 5 weeks later but the tumor is growing. I have her on pain and Rimadyl and her tail is still a waggin' so we take it day by day. I have read alot about this and get so many diff stories about life expectancy with this. Would like to know what to expect down the road
Jeff, Ottumwa, IA
Posted: 10/24/2011 10:07:56 PM
To supplement my earlier comment, my niece is an oncology veterinarian in Tacoma, WA, Summit Veterinary Referral Center: LINK She was a great resource for me when my kitty had his tumor, and another oncologist in Seattle treated him because my niece was not finished with her residency at that time. Anyone in the Seattle Tacoma areas can get more information on treatments by emailing them. It's very expensive and I couldn't do it again, but at the time the treatment was what I had to do. I wish you all the best.
Nancy, Seattle, WA
Posted: 9/12/2011 3:48:24 PM
I wonder why there is so much cancer in pets. My older cat had a tumor in his soft palate which we treated with radiation (three sessions) and chemo. He tolerated the procedures very well and didn't seem to have any real negative effects from them. He lived another year or more, but ultimately he died of kidney failure. I don't know how old he was because he had been a stray, but I still miss him some three years after his passing. Today my friend is putting her 12 year old kitty down because he has a very fast growing tumor in his sinus cavity and after just a week or two he can hardly breathe. It's very sad. Could the cancers be caused by the chemicals people use in their yards--these were both indoor/outdoor kitties. My current kitties are indoor kitties only, with an elaborate outdoor "playpen" built for them that they access through a window and a covered bridge that keeps them contained within their outdoor playpen.
Nancy, Seattle, WA
Posted: 9/12/2011 3:40:23 PM
It is so helpful to see everyone's experiences with their pet's nasal cancer. Our 12-year old Honey Boy was diagnosed yesterday after a CT and scope at UCDavis VMTH. (excellent experience btw). The tumor is localized to his right nasal cavity. Organs, bloodwork etc are all in great shape and we took him in because of congested breathing through his nose and a blood spotting. Yunnan Bayio seems to be effective to stop the bleeding thus far. With our vet we've begun to determine a pain management plan with piroxicam for now. But my main reason for posting is that I am looking for different dog food recipies that I can make for his maximum nutrition (as well as our 2 other 12-year old dogs). It's clear nutrition is vital to his quality of life and I want to keep him as content and well-fed as possible.
Veronica, Davis, CA
Posted: 8/20/2011 3:20:22 PM
My sons dog is being tested for nasal cancer. She has a large growth on her snout. Can someone share what herbal supplements, food etc. that might help her survive longer and help her with symptoms.
Kim, Mesquite, TX
Posted: 8/17/2011 9:18:31 AM
My dog was Diagnosed w/a Nasal Neoplasia in Feb,2011, I has a scope done and removed as much as possible, the bleeding has all but gone away but on the good side of her nose she has a smelly snot discharge all the time. They gave her 2 to 4 months to live, we have past that right now but it is spreading to her eye , she has a knot under her eye,it appeare that she iss loosing her eye sight in that eye. But what gets me is she is still so full of life.,her personality hasnt changed at all. I look at her and cry, I want to do more but I dont know what to do. She is my baby ( MATSI) I dont have the heart to pu her down, I just dont think she is ready. I have her on herbal medicines and believe this is why we have out lived the doctor's prognosis. This article has helped explain the tumor going to the eye. I just need a head's up on what could happen nexted. Matsi is my life( she saved my life ) so I am trying to help her all I can. I am w/her 24/7 ,I am disabled so I am w/her all the time, I will not let anyone else take care of her. I am here to tell u though it is a long hard job. It is exhausting. Thank you for your article
Sandy, O'Fallon, MO
Posted: 7/6/2011 11:18:47 AM
Very informative. Thank you. My golden Luna was diagnosed with nose cancer. She is 10 years old and has been on meds for thyroid problems for years and years. She was diagnosed last week, 6-25-2011 after surgery to explore and attempt to remove the mass. I'm hoping we did the right thing with the surgery, sort of sounds like we shouldn't have. She is energetic, wags her tail, eats and drinks, and still plays tug with our other pup. But she sneezes frequently and will dive into the carpet with her head and you can tell she is having problems. Plus she breathes heavily, like from congestion, when she sleeps. We are not doing any radiation, chemo, etc. All we plan on doing is being here for her. Aside from the thyroid meds she is getting rimadyl to help as an anti-inflammatory, and tramadol for pain relief, so far in minimal doses. We also have alpazolam in small doses but rarely use it. That's our situation. Anyone with pets knows the emotional trauma of dealing with this. I can't believe ten years have gone by so quickly. I distinctly remember her when she came in to our lives as a puppy.
Tom, Sammamish, WA
Posted: 7/1/2011 2:36:14 PM
Good information. Do dogs pant more when they have Nasal cancer? My dog was diagnosed about 6 weeks ago after a scope of the nose was completed. However, after reading your article he has had symptoms since at least September 2010. The panting is concerning. Thank you :(
Tammy, Chesapeake, VA
Posted: 6/29/2011 6:44:03 PM
My 11yr old Aussie (acts and looks like 2 yrs old) just got nasal cancer diagnosis with erosion of cribriform bone (which is bone plate protecting brain from nasal cavity). symptoms of sneezing 6-8 wks ago (we thought he had allergies), small amts of intermittent nasal bleeding x 3 weeks, prior to that no noticeable symptoms. Not 100% sure yet as histo results are not back, but I think we are not going to do radiation as vet says it will only prolong life a couple months and I do not want him to suffer in any way possible. I've had a dog go thru radiation in the past and although I think it may have helped some, in hind sight I think he suffered more than I originally thought. I think my concoction of alternative meds/nutritional supplements and herbal medications extended his life well beyond what the vets ever predicted. They gave him 3 months with radiation, he lived 1 1/2 yrs. Although this is not the norm as he had aggressive melanoma of the tongue, I am going to try an alternative med program that a human friend of mine used on himself with positive results.
susan tingley, roanoke, VA
Posted: 5/25/2011 5:56:04 PM
My cat was diagnosed with cancer of her left sinus after I found a tiny pea sized lump on her head. She continued to live comfortably for three and half months before showing any cylincal signs. The tumour grew upwards and also slightly inwards which eventually effected her brain. Other than Metocam she received no treatment as the Oncologist advised that she had an agressive carcinoma. She died peacefully at home when I knew the time was right. She was thirteen and a half years old.
Sarah, London, SK
Posted: 5/10/2011 1:32:41 PM
My akita/rott mix dog, Kandice, was just diagnosed with inoperable nasal cancer. I started taking her to the vet for an eye infection in January. The treatment of prednisone, antibiotics and benadryl were great, but I found blood splattered all around her water bowl and took her in for rview.

Your article was great and supported everything my vet told me. Of course I had to surf the net to see if there are miracle treatments. We plan to keep her as comfortable. Thank you for putting in in black & white.
Freda, Portland, OR
Posted: 3/8/2011 5:48:44 PM
Thank you for all the information in this article. Our Wheaten, Shaggy, age 7, was just diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in his right nostril. based on the mitotic rate of 14 we have been told there is no treatment available in our area that would be effective for his condition. Our family is devastated that nothing can be done. We too went the route of treating him for infections and asthma for 6 months only to find after several severe nose bleeds that it is cancer. We are going to love him and try to keep him as healthy as possible with steroid treatment and lots of TLC.
Lisa, Omaha, NE
Posted: 2/9/2011 7:40:13 PM
I am glad that I read this because we are pretty sure that our four year old Golden Retrievor has nasal cancer. She has been sick for a long time and we are meeting with the vet on Wednesday to talk with us. Chelsey has lost 8 pounds and we are hoping that she has not lost anymore. Our vet is only able to do the x-ray and has seen a lot of cloudiness in the area of the sinuses. He said that Chelsey was suspect for cancer. By reading your article we were able to see what is best for Chelsey. Love her and not put her through all this.
Kathy, Pueblo, CO
Posted: 1/3/2011 6:09:18 AM
I am sure this is what my 12 year old male cat has. I am not going to subject him to vet trips or any other of their horrors. Pet Wellbeing has some great products that really help but the tumor is still growing. I don't buy the second hand smoke or air pollution line - I think it was the Frontline that caused this. I am just making him as comfortable as possible until he gives up.
Libby, Atlanta, GA
Posted: 12/8/2010 11:01:17 AM
My 12 y/o Australian Shephard developed symptoms approximately 1 year before I could get any vet to consider a nasal adenocarcinoma, even with the compelling symptom presentation that matched many if not all of the diagnostic criteria. Finally, after she had a severe episode of nasal epistaxsis, we were referred for CT and workup. She is now in a great deal of pain, not a candidate for radiation, chemo and is on palliative care with management of pain meds. I am trying to decide when to end her life and am very upset that my local vets did not listen to me when I brought this concern to them. Much valuable time was wasted and needless pain and stress with other options (FB, teeth, allergies) before she could be diagnosed and a pain management regimen could be developed. I am a person healthcare provider and can say that better differential diagnosis needs to be considered by vets who present with these very clear constellation of symptoms. I do thank heavens that we were sent to a vet clinic who did help us find out what was wrong.
DK, Kerrville, TX
Posted: 11/29/2010 9:42:13 AM
This is not always a disease of "older" or "geriatric" pets. Our female Cardigan Welsh Corgi, aged only 5 years (a breed with an expected lifespan of 16+), was diagnosed with nasal adenocarcinoma in June of 2010, after a couple of very mild bouts of runny bleeding which we initially thought might be caused by an injury or an inhaled seed of foxtail grass.

Her tumor was in the caudal area of one nostril, quite extensive and filling a good portion of the sinus cavity and close to her brain - deemed inoperable and with a very poor prognosis without treatment (2 months). She received 6 courses of palliative radiation followed by chemotherapy every 3 weeks in conjunction with several holistic methods of treatment and a special diet.

Despite her recurrent "nose drip" and a "bump" that eventually appeared between her eyes, she remained quite playful and in very good spirits, and, as far as we could tell, basically free of pain until her last 2 days when her condition suddenly and precipitously deteriorated and she was diagnosed with other new rapid-growth tumors in her abdominal area (though she never lost her appetite!). We lost our beloved little girl last week (November 2010), and our family is utterly heartbroken, including her devoted 5-year-old corgi "sister".

We wish she could have survived for a hoped-for one-to-two years with treatment, but we are grateful to have been able to give her those five precious months with us during which she was able to enjoy life, was not suffering, and we could "spoil" her. We miss her so very, very much and are devastated that she had to leave us so very young. She was essentially one of our children, and her paw-prints are indelibly engraved upon our hearts.
Chris, SF Bay Area, CA
Posted: 11/20/2010 2:19:26 AM
My Westie was diagnosed with nasal cancer 7 months ago. Initially he was treated for allergies. The first symptom he exhibited was severe nosebleeds. After a month, he was referred to a specialist - they did an MRI with biopsy and that is when the cancer diagnosis was confirmed. Surgery was not an option as they said it was "too far gone" at that point. Radiation and/or chemo was suggested but when I asked the vet to tell me what he would do if it was his dog, he said the important thing to him is quality of life, not quantity and he would not put his pet through the trauma as the side effects are not pleasant, to say the least. I told him that I totally agreed with him, I certainly didn't want to be selfish by trying to prolong his life by agreeing to treatment that would make him suffer even though he may live a little longer. I have had him on pain meds and an anti-inflammatory and he was doing well, although still with occasional nosebleeds. The past month I have noticed his breathing becoming worse and the tumor has grown significantly. I know the time is soon going to come when I will have to put him down and I am absolutely devastated. That being said, I do not regret my decision of not putting him through chemo/radiation. The time he has had since diagnosis has been without the additional pain and potential serious side effects that go along with those types of treatment. I hope my comment has helped others who may be trying to decide how to handle their pets diagnosis. It is the worst thing I have ever gone through with a pet and I hope that others can find some comfort in knowing that there are other people out there who are going through the same thing.
Patricia, Setauket, NY
Posted: 10/26/2010 1:21:10 PM
Our bailey(retriever mix) was diagnosed with undifferentiated nasal carcinoma. She did radiation and now on chemo. We are also doing holistic treatment. We spent so much we need help to continue. If you decide to go in that route, it is financially hard unless you have extra cash for the medications and treatments. Her septum is now gone but nevertheless, she's still in high spirits, have a big appetite , loves to ride around in the car, runs around when she's excited and fighting with all her might to wake up with us everyday. You can check her updated pictures at
Priscilla, Emeryville, CA
Posted: 10/19/2010 11:10:37 PM
Our sheltie was diagnosed with nasal adenocarcinoma yesterday. We are devestated with the news. The vet said that we could take him to University of Wiscosin for radiation but it would only prolong his life 6 to 9 months maybe. We are trying to decide what to do. Your articles and comments have been helpful. We are to get back with the vet and make a decision on treatment. We don't want him to suffer. We had been taking him since last June because of his runny nose and we finally demanded they do a scope for the nose/throat and this is what they found. What about paid meds, chemo, holistic/organic home treatments, anything that we can do to make him comfortable. He currently runs and plays with our other sheltie and seems to be very happy. Pleasse give us some options.....we love him so much. He is 9 years old. All of these articles have been comforting and informative for us. Keep them coming. Thank you.
Linda, Taylor Ridge, IL
Posted: 10/16/2010 10:40:08 AM
my dog was diagnoised with nasal cancer 2 years ago on columbus day weekend and were told to take him home they did want to do surgery because it will come back and how far into the cavity it is, so we decided to find a specialist who will remove it and hope for the best by giving him grain free foods and holistic vitamins/ now we have him on vit d and fish oil and is still with us and approaching 2 years on columbus day weeekend , there is hope for our beautiful pets.... the pulinsk ifamily
sharon, west seneca, NY
Posted: 10/1/2010 4:41:08 PM
Being there is not a lot out there on nasal Fibrosarcomas in felines, it was nice to come upon this article when I was dealing with my kitty's diagnosis of this a few years ago. Your article described the steps in diagnosing very well. We believed my kitty, Sylvester, had a sinus infection and he was treated for 2 weeks with antibiotics. By the third week we did an xray and it did not look good (could have been foreign object, polyp, cancer...). The next step was a biopsy where they were able to flush some of the mess in his nose out and get a good culture. It came back as Fibrosarcoma. I immediately went to the internet to try to find info on this and found it very rare. Even a couple of years after his passing, I still check from time to time to see if there is any more information out there on this. Still not a whole lot out there. So thank you for writing even about the rare, cause someone out there is going to have a kitty with a rare case and need answers. It makes things easier when you kinda already know what to expect. Thanks again!
Jennifer, Ridgeland, MS
Posted: 9/29/2010 8:34:00 PM
My cat Ollie who I found as a stray two months ago has been diagnosed with nasal lymphoma. The vet contacted the Univ. of Madison, WI. cancer people.. they suggested 6 mos of chemo (a mixture of different compounds) and predisone. He's had two shots of predisone until all the tests came back.. responded well. Vet was surprised at how well he did respond just with this although we know there is not a "cure". Now have an appt. at a specialty clinic to get 2nd opinion on treatment. On the fence about any treatment except just keeping him pain free and as comfortable as possible. We are trying not to be selfish and think of only his welfare, but as you all know... we love them so much it is very difficult. We are devastated as we love him as if we had him from day one. This article is very helpful and I think it is great to share thoughts and feelings. I will say a prayer for all of us.
Sandy, Pingree Grove, IL
Posted: 8/24/2010 5:05:28 PM
Great article,My eight year old Springer developed a Nasel discharge 10 months ago After an xray which showed inflamation, my vet was pushing for a Ct scan, my groomer who does him told me not to do anything , if it's Cancer there is no cure, so I am treating him with prednisone, I refuse to put him through anything more than that, he seems not to be in pain, that,s all you can do ,
Richard, Cheshire, CT
Posted: 8/17/2010 7:44:39 PM
Great article. My 7 yr old springer was dignosed with lyphoma after exhibiting all of these nasal symptons. It took $3,500 for X-Ray, CT scan & rhinoscopy to get the diagnoses. After investing another $500 in chemo, which he reacted poorly to, we pulled back to go with 'comfort care' & we are happy we did. His personality has returned. we treat his symptons with low doses of prednizone & saline nasal spray. We understand & accept he may have a short time left but it is of higher quality than the life we experienced while undergoing treatments.
Bob, Bensalem, PA
Posted: 6/8/2010 6:52:16 AM
Thank you for the direct and informative information. I have a beagle and bassett mixed dog that is 10 years old. He is a big part of my family life.We love him and needed to know what to expect and the prognosis. Thank you again Tammie
tammie, laurel, MS
Posted: 4/8/2010 5:28:12 PM
I have a 9 year old Bouvier who was diagnosed with nasal cancer approximately 9 months ago. In hindsight, he has likely had it for over 2 years now (initial diagnosis was sinus infection). We elected not to pursue radiation or chemo; instead, he's on high doses of clindamycin plus meloxicam. He's still an active and happy dog, although the lump on his head is getting bigger. It's heartbreaking, but at the same time we feel lucky that the disease is progressing slowly.
Melanie, Calgary, AB
Posted: 4/5/2010 5:15:50 PM
My Basset Hound mix has recently been diagnosed with a malignant epithileal carcinoma, that started in his nose and is going to his brain. Its inoperable. He has only been given 2-3 survival. I have him on tramadol 50mg, twice a day. He is only 7 years old (if he survives he will be 8 in June). This is the most devastating situation I have been in. I love him so much and this is so, so increadibly hard for me. The article has been very informative, it hit on everything that the vets have told me. Keep writing good informative articles.
Lisa, Washington, DC
Posted: 3/30/2010 10:12:49 AM
My black labrador retriever, Shadow got nasal cancer at 7 yrs old. It took myself and the vet to realize that it was nasal cancer, about 2 mths. She had 2 operations to remove the tumors, and is now 9.5 yrs old. She has started sneezing blood and tumor parts 3 days ago, and when i looked in her nostrils, the tumors are back. I will most likely bring her back for another operation to remove the tumors once again, to prolong her life for another 2.5 yrs. I love her too much, she's the "best dog in the world"
Linda, Lachute, QC
Posted: 3/26/2010 3:43:55 PM
Correction to my previous post.

We do not regret the decision to not have radiation!
Angie, Lincoln, NE
Posted: 2/2/2010 5:13:21 PM
Informative article!

Our dog Max (who is a mixed breed Collie and Australian Shepherd) is 12 years old/would be 13 in April. He was diagnosed with Nasal Cancer this past August (2009). We were given the option of radiation, but chose not to do it. The other option we were given was 6 mg of Peroxicam once per day (which we give with food) with a survival rate of about 6 months. That has worked for him and he has been a fairly happy dog and eating quite a lot for a sick dog, until the past two weeks. He started bleeding out of his nose again and just today has a bump/enlargement on the side of his nose near the right eye, which leads me to believe that the tumor is getting larger. He is also snorting more and his breathing is getting worse through the nose. We have been in contact with the Vet who diagnosed him and unfortunately there is really not much else we can do. It has now become a waiting game and trying to make him comfortable. I am dreading having to make the decision to euthanize him. Have never had to do that before. In all this, we do not regret the decision to have radiation and have been happy with the past 5 months.
Angie, Lincoln, NE
Posted: 2/2/2010 5:09:55 PM
My dog Chloe received her diagnosis today and I am just devastated. She is a small dog and is 12 years old. She has been sneezing and had a runny nose and I thought it was allergies. She had a bump on her nose last week and the biopsy results came in today. My vet said radiation is expensive, could burn her eyes, and may only prolong her life for a short while. I don't know what to do. I am broke but I do not want to give up on her as she is part of my family. I lost a 13 year old dalmatian and a 13 year old rat terrier in the last two years and I am so saddened by Chloe's diagnosis. What is out there to help them? I love this old girl so much, but I want to give her quality life not quantity.
Lisa, Florence, SC
Posted: 12/21/2009 5:50:23 PM
My 10 yr. old Aussie Sheperd was diagnosed with nasal cancer today. He had a rhinoscopy today. The tissue was sent off for biopsy and determination. My vet said that from the look of the tissue he believed it is cancerous. What kind of cancer will be determined from the biopsy. I, like the rest of the readers on this forum am totally devastated. My vet says the radiation treatment would be for 3 weeks, M-F with Sat. and Sundays off. I will have to take and leave him at the Univ. of Missouri Vet. School for this period of time which also breaks my heart. This is so overwhelmingly awful to hear this and to know the prognosis is so poor. If anyone reading this who has had their pet undergo the radiation, would please let me know how sick do they become from the treatments, I would appreciate it. I don't want the remainder of "Dancer's" life to so sick from this.
Thanks, And may all who have posted on this website, I pray for the continued health and good life of your pets. If you so wish, my email is remybluemerle@gmail
Dan, St. Louis, MO
Posted: 7/20/2009 6:01:31 PM
Our 7-yr old cat was diagnosed with nasal lymphoma in May. He had 15 treatments of radiation therapy over two weeks and it didn't seem to bother him. Fortunately, we live 10 minutes from the Veterinary hospital where he was treated so we could drop him off and pick him up every day. He finished his treatment on June 3rd and so far has exhibited no side effects except for one -- he is a black cat and on his face, where he had the radiation treatment, his black fur is mixed with gray. Looks strange but so far he seems happy and well otherwise. The treatment was quite expensive but fortunately at this point in our lives we could afford it.
susan, champaign, IL
Posted: 7/18/2009 1:51:36 PM
This is a great article. With Nasal cancer being rare it is vet difficult to find people going through the samething I am. My cat Poca was diagnosed with nasel cancer in late febuary of this year. She already had hyperthyroidism and a heart block so therefor she has been diagnosed by eye and process of elimanation. She is currently on steriods but her face is deformed. I currently have an appointment to put her down on Monday since I think she is starting to feel pain. I am absolutly devestated. She still eats and drinks and purrs but lies around alot and struggles to move around. I am very confused on what to do for her. This is a very difficult disease to handle since it usually happens in older animals.
Susan, Staten Island, NY
Posted: 6/18/2009 1:54:35 PM
I Find this web site to be very helpful. My baby girl "daisy duke" has nasal cancer. I am trying to accept this although I am having a very hard time. I love her so very much. I do agree with the "comfort care" we are taking excellent care of her at home and giving her so much love and affection and I am not showing my sadness in front of her. Im still praying for a miracle, I know this is part of life, but anyone who has an animal they love dearly can certainly relate to this. I know when the times comes what I need to do. I will not see my animal suffer. I believe we are truly "blessed" to have them in our lives and they bring such happiness to our worlds. It still hurts so bad inside, i cry when i read these articles, but there are moments of laughter as well.
I just want to say thank you to the people who write on here because it's like therapy for me.. I am happy to come home to her loud bark! she is happy and still smiling :)
Samantha, Sanibel, FL
Posted: 6/5/2009 9:10:59 PM
I wish this study had been done 6 years ago. After my BC/ACD cross was diagnosed with nasal cancer I was told that a rhinotomy could extend his life by 1-2 years and he would have a normal life following a 6 week recovery time. I had to euthanise him 5 weeks after an unexpectedly bruutal surgery. I've regretted it ever since. I'd have preferred to make those last 5 weeks of his life as comfortable as possible rather than put him through that. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Thank you for a wonderful article and I hope it makes others think twice before having this surgery performed.
Heather, Calgary, AB
Posted: 5/27/2009 2:29:40 PM
Great information and articles. My best friend "Duke" is at the good old age of 15 and I have recently been told that he has nasal cancer. His first nosebleed started in Oct of 2008 and he has had 4 more since then, he was first treated for infection and then we did the endoscopy. I have opted to go the pain management route given his age and that they almost lost him when they did the endoscopy. I am just tormented with my own emotions of "am I doing the right thing?" Also, how long can I expect to share with him? Everyday when he lifts his head to see me and I hear him bark when I get home from work is a good day!
Again, this article has been very informative and I will continue to review.
Darlene, Halton Hills, ON
Posted: 2/24/2009 11:47:37 AM
Our boy, had been treated for 2 years for allergies and had nosebleeds for 6 mo. before being diagnosed at age 7 by CT scan and biopsy. The Vet at a university teaching animal clinic told me he would not live more than 2 months without radiation. After some research, I decided against radiation/chemo and to provide comfort care. That was 12 months ago. Our boy just turned 8 and is healthy, happy and energetic today.

I tried steroids briefly but he had side effects. Now I give him Tramadol for pain control and will provide stronger pain meds if needed in the future. He eats organic foods; grazes on kibble, sweet potato or pumpkin mixed with salmon oil each evening, cottage cheese mixed with flaxseed oil each morning. These foods keep him eating, fight inflammation and so far seem to be working. He's not had a nose bleed since the biopsy although he does have a continuous runny nose.

Sure he has a golf ball sized growth on his nose and now has some small growths on his body, probably in lymph nodes, but these don't seem to bother him.

That initial fear and sadness has been replaced with happiness for every day he is with us because I know that for now, he is comfortable and happy too. I hope other families who face this diagnosis find this site and these comments as they are trying to decide what to do. I've never regretted the decision to provide comfort care over more conventional cancer treatments.
Lorri, Rockford, IL
Posted: 2/20/2009 10:22:06 AM
This is a great article - clear, to the point. My 14 year old jack/dachsund mix was just diagnosed. Thank God the vet was GREAT and called it with the swollen muzzle and sneezing. By removing three teeth (he said they basically fell out) he had the sample for biopsy. It is a squamous cell nasal tumor. So - now we keep him comfortable with pain meds and antibiotics and get to spoil him for the next couple of months.
I am really going to miss the little guy.
Bobbie, Winter Park, FL
Posted: 2/18/2009 11:56:01 AM
this was a fablous article. My 12 year old mixed breed was diagnosed initially with allergies. made the real diagnosis hard. my vet would do nothing to dx her or help me so i changed vets. she is having xrays this wk but the cost of chemo is prohibitive, as well as radiation therapy. wish those costs had been included in the article.
Sue, Worcester, MA
Posted: 2/14/2009 4:20:31 AM
This was a very good article. I wish I had searched for articles like this earlier because I just lost my Cornish Rex cat, Roxanne, who had nasal lymphoma. She had seemed to be responding to radiation and chemo but suddenly underwent cardiorespiratory arrest at the hospital-I did not agree to autopsy and we don't know why. Of course, there are never guarantees, but I wonder if earlier treatment may have made a difference. She had symptoms for a year and at first responded to steroids and since she had lifelong history of mild asthma symptoms, allergies seemed reasonable. Knowing what I know now, I would have pushed for rhinoscopy instead of xrays. CT shows differences late but I think biopsy would probably be better. I am a dermatologist and dermatopathologist and I know that B cell lymphomas are much easier to diagnose early compared to T cell because of cell markers. I think that even though an animal may need to be biopsied more than once, it is worth it because the yield is better.
Joy, Mokena, IL
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:51:21 AM
Ashley, my 10-yr old Boxer has tumors on her skin, liver, and nose. She is more active thanks to a recent blood transfusion and B12 shot, but her nose is bleeding more and more. Thank you for this article. We won't be doing radiation or chemotherapy. I just want her to be comfortable in the end.
Stephanie, Pelham, AL
Posted: 1/22/2009 10:23:04 AM
Great article!
Elle, Montecito, CA
Posted: 1/5/2009 11:38:10 AM
Excellent article. We have been dealing with nasal cancer in our schnauzer for 25 months now. His face is very deformed but he is still playing, eating and has quality of life we just pray.
Connie, New Port Richey, FL
Posted: 12/28/2008 7:39:59 PM
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